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Poster: kochman Date: Nov 5, 2008 7:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Do you know Davies?

"It was 43 before our major contributions to the russkies were felt. Again, there are many sources that show this."

1943... oh, you mean when the Russians started to win instead of lose?

Nor did we "defeat Japan on our own". Good grief. So, according to you, we played a negligible part in the European Theater, and a complete, victorious yet isolated part in the Pacific? No help from anyone... I bet the Brits didn't know that... nor the Australians... nor the Chinese... wow. We are just so great (for the Pacific, we kind of didn't do anything in the Atlantic according to you).

I am done arguing with you. I don't know why you are trying to argue that America didn't help much in Europe, nor why you completely distort the facts and misstate ideas, but whatever, revisionist history at its best! God Bless America, where we are free to rewrite the past to compliment our arguments more effectively.

I am done with this...

Go Obama! Remain true to your campaign promises.

This post was modified by kochman on 2008-11-05 15:50:17

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Nov 5, 2008 7:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Do you know Davies?

Which promises? He changed his positions to centrist or comporomised on most of them to get elected, I just want the friggin money...

You are being a bit hard on the lone ranger. He means well even if he dresses funny.


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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 5, 2008 8:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Do you know Davies?

OK, can we be civil? I am willing to try if you are.

Look up Midway.

Ask the brits and the aussies about the Coral Sea.

Game over for Japan.

My uncles served in the Pacific. Wounded twice (both). I have traveled to many of the battlefield sites. This is me "name dropping" or some such, but I am very interested in the topic. Trust me kid (I assume you are young, and I just happen to be old), I have over 300 books on WWI and WWII. I do this for a living.

I do not have an axe to grind. But for someone to say "UK would be speaking German" if not for us just doesn't have all the facts in the right order.

Sure, it's a possibility, BUT far from a certainty given the sequence of events prior to our major involvement.

Likewise, for someone to think we didn't single-handedly win the Pacific Theatre is just not in touch with the relative contributions of the major players.

China was a side show.

But, why the "we won Europe" but not "we won the Pacific?"